Subject: [Classpathx-crypto] pdf files

From: Nic Ferrier <[email-masked]>
Date: Mon, 03 Dec 2001 23:31:36 +0000

You guys have a few pdf files on your site.

Are there free software tools for reading pdfs?

Are there alternatives to pdf files? postscript would be better
because there are free software tools for displaying them.

Of course, info/TeX would be best.

Nic

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From: "Raif S. Naffah" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 19:03:28 +1100

>Are there free software tools for reading pdfs?

the acrobat reader to my knowledge is free (see 
<http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep.html>).

>because there are free software tools for displaying them.

these are, to my recollection, files published by the designers of the 
algorithm, not us.

>Of course, info/TeX would be best.

of course.

today we're using/publishing in html.  is that ok?

cheers;
rsn

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From: Olivier LF <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 22:23:40 +1100

> because there are free software tools for displaying them.

Ghostscript can read both ps and pdf files. All GNU/Linux system seams
to have it with a handfull of front ends, "gnome-gv" to cite only one.
pdf are a lot smaller that ps, that's at least an advantage also
gzipped postscripts are about the same size as pdf.

> Of course, info/TeX would be best.

I'd like to look at docbook. I've used LaTeX for years but I'd rather
investigate docbook. Do you have any experience with it?
I am quite sure I read somewhere that gcj as some tools to convert
javadoc to texinfo, have you heard of that?

Olivier

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From: "Nic Ferrier" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:36:01 -0000

> <http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/readstep.html>).

No. The acrobat reader is free as in beer. I meant free-software.

> these are, to my recollection, files published by the designers of the

What are the redistribution terms? You may not be able to keep these on the
site, linking to them elsewhere might be ok though.

Nic

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From: "Nic Ferrier" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 11:40:37 -0000

> javadoc to texinfo, have you heard of that?

I have used Docbook, and it is really good.

However, docbook doesn't yet have an info maker and info is still the chosen
doc platform for GNU. There's good reason for that, docbook may be the new
and sexy thing but it still doesn't have the widespread support of info. And
in many ways info is superior (it's lighter for one thing).

The GNU project is working on a javadoc -> info tool. That is being done by
the Classpath Tools project, which is part of Classpath.

Hopefully we will eventually have docbook -> info too, I'm sure someone is
working on it somewhere.

Nic

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From: "Raif S. Naffah" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 22:52:59 +1100

>No. The acrobat reader is free as in beer. I meant free-software.

Olivier answered this one already.

>site, linking to them elsewhere might be ok though.

dont know.  i'll have to ask.  if i get the authors' permission i guess i 
can keep them where they are. ok?

the rationale for this is that these things tend to disappear after a time 
from the net and links become forever broken.  they are included here so 
the alert/curious reader/user can verify the code against the designer's 
specifications.

cheers;
rsn

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From: "Nic Ferrier" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:06:00 -0000

> the alert/curious reader/user can verify the code against the designer's

I understand your reasons... I'm just nervous of distributing PDF files (a
proprietary format) from non-GNU sources.

I hope you understand.

If you can get the author's permission I will _consider_ allowing their
hosting on the GNU site. If not, we will have to manage the movement of the
files (perhaps by meerly quoting them).

Nic

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From: "Raif S. Naffah" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 04 Dec 2001 23:22:07 +1100

At 12:06 PM 12/4/01 +0000, Nic Ferrier wrote:
>I hope you understand...

no problems.  i'll remove those files and replace them with links to their 
current site.

cheers;
rsn

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From: "Nic Ferrier" <[email-masked]>
Date: Tue, 4 Dec 2001 12:29:34 -0000

> no problems.  i'll remove those files and replace them with links to their

If you're happy to do that it seems to be the best solution.

Nic